's interesting that tonight these speeches, and i think marco rubio is giving one, too, the kemp foundation. some of us are hold enough to remember jack kemp who was a republican who i think sincerely believed that some conservative ideas, in terms of homeownership and other things, could help african-american and low income community and he went out there, he talked to that crowd and he had -- yet there was a real authenticity -- >> it's better for americans if they have conservative ideas. these aren't just those ideas. >> yeah, i think cutting medicaid and cutting pell grants and school lunches is not what jack kemp was about. so paul ryan, just by -- it's interesting he said, i gave a speech, i gave a speech. you have to more than give speeches. >> i think you're right. and i do remember reading about jack kemp. david jashgs mal, thank you for being on the show tonight. >> sure thing. >>> coming up, they did everything to stop her. but here comes elizabeth warren. the big news is next. >> very proud night for myself and my family and my staff and my friends. i received a kennedy center honor.